This was posted on Sons of Sam Horn and is too good not to pass along:
"So, if we can't scrap the Electoral College, how about staggering the voting?
10 states a day vote, Mon-Fri. The more traditional red/blue states vote first. The swing states last. Results come out everyday.
I would bet, especially as the week gets later, people realize how important it is for them to get to the polls. It would certainly have pushed Clinton supporters out to the polls if they saw big orange crushing early on."
I replied: I would vote for such an amendment because it'd 1. increase popular interest and 2. The media could have their best ratings ever. I don't know how good an idea this would be but damn it'd be entertaining.
I'm curious, what are you counting? Are those state legislatures that are red in both houses? Because I if so, I wonder what Charles Pierce is counting. He can't be that off on his math, so maybe he means something different than you're counting.
They're red in both houses, without the possibility of a Democratic governor to block it.
The map I've seen that articles like this are based on seem to include Alaska (Independent governor, D coalition house), and states like Louisiana, Pennsylvania and West Virginia (can't override a D governor veto, not enough of a majority).
I think I realized what it might be. I'm too lazy to look at some graphics to confirm, but I think he's talking about the legislative bodies that will be in place once they are sworn in in 2017.
So you mean without counting the governors? Because the veto is still there and I think the number still ends up being around 25, maybe near 30 if governors don't count in that math.
Edit: The numbers I was using did indeed come from what will be in place in 2017. 25 R including governors, 29 otherwise.
OK.
I wonder where they are getting their numbers from, then.
Just made a comment, found what they're using and found 1 state that I was missing.
Okay, I found the map this claim is from and I found where the differences are.
Alaska: Marked full R. Governor Independent, Lt. Governor Democratic. House Democratic.
Louisiana: Has both, but D Governor. R lacks supermajority in House for veto override.
Minnesota: Has both, but D Governor. Not even close to a supermajority in either House or Senate here.
Montana: Both, but D Governor and no supermajority.
New Hampshire: Okay I missed that one, up to 26.
Pennsylvania: Lacks Senate Supermajority for override of D governor.
Virginia: Lacks House Supermajority to override governor (actually barely has a majority there at all)
West Virginia: Somehow doesn't have supermajority for override in either? Trump wins by 40 but they can't even manage to have full control lol
So Yeah, 26, though if we lose governor races it could be close to the tipping point after 2018. Would be a big stretch for the GOP to pull it off even then.
It should also be noted that even if amendments were proposed by this process, you'd need 38 states to pass said amendments. We're a long way from that.
Oh, god damn. I did not agree to any of this horseshit.
|At least Elijah Cummings is starting to release countermeasures.|
Christ allmighty, Cumming's committee leadership wants to instead re-investigate Clinton. https://thinkprogress.org/house-oversight-trump-a…
That smarmy fuck…
To clarify, it's not Cummings, (of course it's not Cummings), it's the committee leadership that instead wants to re-investigate Clinton.
I'm sure you realize that but I just noticed how ambiguous my comment sounds and I wanted to clarify for the record.
I absolutely aimed my comment at Chaffetz. Cummings is almost always on the right side.
That's only a little frightening…
SMH
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not scurred-
srsly, try it, motherfuckers. You wanna see us form a phalanx to take back the joint, do it, because that's exactly what will happen.
This was posted on Sons of Sam Horn and is too good not to pass along:
"So, if we can't scrap the Electoral College, how about staggering the voting?
10 states a day vote, Mon-Fri. The more traditional red/blue states vote first. The swing states last. Results come out everyday.
I would bet, especially as the week gets later, people realize how important it is for them to get to the polls. It would certainly have pushed Clinton supporters out to the polls if they saw big orange crushing early on."
I replied: I would vote for such an amendment because it'd 1. increase popular interest and 2. The media could have their best ratings ever. I don't know how good an idea this would be but damn it'd be entertaining.
Maybe if actual results could have been published from the early voting? Exit polls have proven to be as unreliable as all the rest.
Indeed- Florida panhandle, calling from 2000, on line one? That was a microcosm of the above
Entertaining, but probably not the best option in reality. But maybe it would look like this?
Mon: DC, WY, OK, UT, WV, ID, HI, VT, ND, AL, KY
Tue: AR, NE, SD, TN, KS, CA, MD, MA, NY, MT
Wed: LA, MS, RI, AK, IN, MO, IL, SC, NJ, WA
Thu: TX, DE, CT, OR, NM, AZ, GA, ME, NC, OH
Fri: IA, MI, FL, CO, MN, NV, VA, NH, WI, PA
Okay, so I looked at the numbers and they don't have 33.
1. Alabama
2. Arizona
3. Arkansas
4. Florida
5. Georgia
6. Idaho
7. Indiana
8. Iowa
9. Kansas
10. Kentucky
11. Michigan
12. Mississippi
13. Missouri
14. Nebraska
15. North Carolina
16. North Dakota
17. Ohio
18. Oklahoma
19. South Carolina
20. South Dakota
21. Tennessee
22. Texas
23. Utah
24. Wisconsin
25. Wyoming
I'm curious, what are you counting? Are those state legislatures that are red in both houses? Because I if so, I wonder what Charles Pierce is counting. He can't be that off on his math, so maybe he means something different than you're counting.
They're red in both houses, without the possibility of a Democratic governor to block it.
The map I've seen that articles like this are based on seem to include Alaska (Independent governor, D coalition house), and states like Louisiana, Pennsylvania and West Virginia (can't override a D governor veto, not enough of a majority).
Whew.
I think I realized what it might be. I'm too lazy to look at some graphics to confirm, but I think he's talking about the legislative bodies that will be in place once they are sworn in in 2017.
So you mean without counting the governors? Because the veto is still there and I think the number still ends up being around 25, maybe near 30 if governors don't count in that math.
Edit: The numbers I was using did indeed come from what will be in place in 2017. 25 R including governors, 29 otherwise.
OK.
I wonder where they are getting their numbers from, then.
Just made a comment, found what they're using and found 1 state that I was missing.
Okay, I found the map this claim is from and I found where the differences are.
Alaska: Marked full R. Governor Independent, Lt. Governor Democratic. House Democratic.
Louisiana: Has both, but D Governor. R lacks supermajority in House for veto override.
Minnesota: Has both, but D Governor. Not even close to a supermajority in either House or Senate here.
Montana: Both, but D Governor and no supermajority.
New Hampshire: Okay I missed that one, up to 26.
Pennsylvania: Lacks Senate Supermajority for override of D governor.
Virginia: Lacks House Supermajority to override governor (actually barely has a majority there at all)
West Virginia: Somehow doesn't have supermajority for override in either? Trump wins by 40 but they can't even manage to have full control lol
So Yeah, 26, though if we lose governor races it could be close to the tipping point after 2018. Would be a big stretch for the GOP to pull it off even then.
It should also be noted that even if amendments were proposed by this process, you'd need 38 states to pass said amendments. We're a long way from that.
Honestly, that is such a relief.