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I like it when they use the "laser" to create an artificial star for deconvoluting atmospheric turbulence. You'd think they could get some sharks up there for that…
That's a long-ass drive from the ocean to be making with a cranky shark in the car.
Nothing compared to a 5 year old with a sugar rush/crash
My, what a long URL you have, Grandma!
A thing of beauty, isn't it?
Yeah, they're into claiming the astronomers are trashing the summit. Wonder how long that will last?
This is how indigenous people are treated here:
|this| (years on the table, just waiting until resistance subsides)
|who's claimin' these here mountains?|
|mountains are sacred ground|.
|I want my bike lanes now. It's picturesque.|
Explode or Explore? Just hang around and be an oppordouche.
|and finally, some solace| … most likely won't get overturned.
Sacred grounds notwithstanding,
"This public-private partnership will reduce costs to taxpayers while accelerating construction."<coughbullshitcough</i>
Anyone who reads a bit of the history of Hawaii will probably come away sympathetic to the Hawaiian sovereignty movement's belief that their kingdom was stolen from them. Having been confronted in public meetings by these folks while doing NEPA work for the Army, I know they can be aggressive, persistent and a bit racist. It's really quite surprising to hear yourself accused of complicity in cultural genocide when you thought you were just preparing an environmental assessment for your client.
The federal courts, rightly or wrongly, have ruled that indigenous peoples cannot claim entire landscapes as sacred places.
A friend's company did a master plan for the Mauna Kea observatories with the objective of insulating them from this kind of activism and opposition by submitting the plan to community for their review. But the same thing happened that often happened to my Army client: things change, new missions or research possibilities arise, and the "plan" becomes a patchwork of expedient amendments that destroys the whole community involvement process.
I mean, yeah, I'm sympathetic to the astronomers, because, hey, they're not strip mining or building an oil well on the summit, it's science, dammit. OTOH, I get the native's outrage and wanting to protect what little they can still protect. I guess it all gets magnified here because the astronomers aren't as psycho as the robber barons (I think?) and on the other hand they're not talking about raping a whole mountain for profit, they want some of the best seeing in the world to continue to learn about the universe.
Oh, if it’s for the “oooh, shiny stars” people, forget it. I haven’t even been up there.>