I hadn't heard about this disaster in the making until last night when Rachel Maddow used the story as a lead-in to her nightly trump disaster story. It's bad out there, and not just in CA. I have 10 acres of ranch property in Pilot Valley NV which is now under several feet of water due to a [dam failure.] Hope everyone's livestock is OK.
Why not? It's in the Shadow of Pilot Peak, a great site for soaring and gliding, and just beyond that to the east is the Bonneville Salt Flats. We're talking a recreational paradise, here.
I haven't read Cadillac Desert, but I saw some of it as a PBS serial. I live under the thumb of the LADWP, the bastards. At least they shouldn't be pumping any of our groundwater this year, with the record-breaking snows last month.
No laughing matter anymore- emergency evacuation ordered
I had a 1971 Ford F-100 for about 25 years, most of those years in deep snow country. We didn't use salt back then, so the truck stayed in relatively good condition. We got a new DOT supervisor that must've had stock in the salt company, because he made us use salt. Within a year, my beloved truck got cancer and died.
Another thing we tried was called ["Berg Limit"], admixed into the asphalt itself. Ice couldn't bond to the pavement. Wonderfully effective, but prohibitively expensive.
That's the famous Aloha flight 243 where a chunk of the fuselage flew off, right? Thought that was caused by stress fatigue rather than corrosion, since a plane in the islands would rarely have been de-iced. Speak, w'pedia:
The airframe, the 152nd Boeing 737 built, named Queen Liliuokalani after Lili'uokalani, with registration N73711, was built in 1969 and delivered to Aloha Airlines as a brand-new aircraft. While the airframe had only accumulated 35,496 flight hours prior to the accident, those hours were over 89,680 flight cycles (a flight cycle is defined as a takeoff and a landing), owing to its use on short flights
CalTrans uses volcanic cinders for the same purpose. That used to be all we used, but someone higher up decided we would also use salt, or else. Our primary cinder mine was at Black Point on Mono Lake. The material had quite a bit of residual salinity, which also helped melt ice and snow in addition to enhancing traction. The Mono Basin is now part of some protected scenic area, so the mining operations had to cease.
There is no such thing as normal rainfall in this state. We either get droughts or floods. Stay safe, Northern CA!
Norm doesn't live here.
I hadn't heard about this disaster in the making until last night when Rachel Maddow used the story as a lead-in to her nightly trump disaster story. It's bad out there, and not just in CA. I have 10 acres of ranch property in Pilot Valley NV which is now under several feet of water due to a [dam failure.] Hope everyone's livestock is OK.
"Biff's lake! Aquatic fun for the whole family!"
Why not? It's in the Shadow of Pilot Peak, a great site for soaring and gliding, and just beyond that to the east is the Bonneville Salt Flats. We're talking a recreational paradise, here.
You got an easy spot where we can pick off jet skis? Pew! Pew!
Of course, you've read Cadillac Desert?
Distance is no obstacle for a Barrett .50 cal.
I haven't read Cadillac Desert, but I saw some of it as a PBS serial. I live under the thumb of the LADWP, the bastards. At least they shouldn't be pumping any of our groundwater this year, with the record-breaking snows last month.
No laughing matter anymore- emergency evacuation ordered
Fuck
http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-news/oroville-…
You and the body shops. There are other chemicals they could use, I've read, but they cost more.
I had a 1971 Ford F-100 for about 25 years, most of those years in deep snow country. We didn't use salt back then, so the truck stayed in relatively good condition. We got a new DOT supervisor that must've had stock in the salt company, because he made us use salt. Within a year, my beloved truck got cancer and died.
Another thing we tried was called ["Berg Limit"], admixed into the asphalt itself. Ice couldn't bond to the pavement. Wonderfully effective, but prohibitively expensive.
That's the famous Aloha flight 243 where a chunk of the fuselage flew off, right? Thought that was caused by stress fatigue rather than corrosion, since a plane in the islands would rarely have been de-iced. Speak, w'pedia:
I remember Cleveland switching from salt to urea. Oof.
NMDOT spreads sand on the icy roads, not to melt the ice but to assist traction. The ice will melt eventually, and the sand doesn't corrode much.
it was fun moving from Cleveland, where cars rusted from the bottom up, to Florida, where they rust from the top down.
Whoa, whoa, what's with these fancy terms like "electrode potential"?
um, um…what metal am I looking at there (or not?)
when there was no crawdad, we ate sand.
CalTrans uses volcanic cinders for the same purpose. That used to be all we used, but someone higher up decided we would also use salt, or else. Our primary cinder mine was at Black Point on Mono Lake. The material had quite a bit of residual salinity, which also helped melt ice and snow in addition to enhancing traction. The Mono Basin is now part of some protected scenic area, so the mining operations had to cease.
You ate what?
We ate sand.
So,when you admixed this stuff in, did the road have built in billboards?
You ate sand?
Luxury! We wished we had sand!
Hey hey hey! We might salt the roads and kill all the vegetation, but billboards are visual pollution!
"Following orders", I see…
This is where you're supposed to thank me for my service. Civil service, but still.
You're welcome.
Mono Lake is weird. Also Honey Lake, even weirder. Closed basins are strange, unless you're a brine shrimp.
I am drawn to the weird. I've lived on the shores of weird lakes a few times in my life. Aside from Mono, try Manly and Grimshaw. I like weird.