There's some credibility to that- lots of rookie QBs get thrown to the wolves because some hitty team with a high draft pick hopes that they'll be their one-man savior- ask Mariota how well that works out.
Did him no harm to carry a clipboard behind Favre for a few years.
I could understand the rush when rookie contracts went through the roof, but now that they've tied them down again, there should be no problem with bringing a QB along slowly.
Too soon to tell. The problem isn't just QBs who aren't ready to jump in as starters, it's also the ones who end up only shining brightly for the first few years and then flame out. This is only Wilson's 4th season, and he is doing decidedly more poorly this year than in the past.
True that. But I'd put a couple of the losses up to Bevell getting too conservative, too early. Don't think it's unreasonable to look a offensive play calling, as well as the defense, in the Hawks not finishing the game meme.
Agreed. Too tight, until they need to pull something out the fire in the final quarter and cut him loose.
Say, you what other QB looked really shitty until the final few drives and then my some miracle would snatch a win? ;p He was fun.
Due to two byes and an injury, the Couchgoats had to bring on some new RB talent for the week. Luckily, one of them can rap.
There seem to be a lot more dudes worried about penises in the ladies' room than ladies (there are some, but not nearly as many). I guess they think we have urinals in there? And also that saying, "No penises allowed" is some kind of magical force field that keeps creepy rapists out, because a guy might be willing to commit felony rape, but he won't go in a room marked "Women"?
I don't know about all this. I mean, it obviously depends on a variety of factors. One that stands out for me (besides athletic talent, of course) is something like maturity or "football intelligence" or whatever you want to call it. There are some QBs who have a clock in their head that expires in about 3 seconds when they know they either need to throw the ball or scramble. Then, of course, there's the talent surrounding the QB. The O-line is probably the most important talent surrounding the QB. If the QB doesn't have that 3 seconds, then he's toast, and so is any sort of running game.
That's always been true though. And that top drafted QB is inevitably going to end up behind a shitty OL, since he's going to one of the worst teams. I dunno, I don't see that anything much has changed from how it always was — the college and pro games have always been different animals (if anything, it's better now than in the old days when an Oklahoma QB could start for four years without ever throwing a pass). QBs have always been thrust into shitty situations they aren't prepared for. I guess we need to figure out if there really is a crisis, or it's just that we now all make spreadsheets every time these guys fart (and someone makes $1 from that on DraftKings).
That's the thing- those hotshot rookies go to shit teams with high draft picks who are desperate to produce ASAP before heads roll and they likely have shit O-lines, which is why their last vet probably got too beat up to play.
Remind me why the first part of this news is hilarious, linky:
In 2013, then-Raven Jacoby Jones broke a kickoff return up the Steelers sideline that looked like it had a chance to go the distance.
Jones hit a bit of a snag as Steelers coach Mike Tomlin was on the field straddling the sideline that Jones was using as his route into Steelers territory.
There's some credibility to that- lots of rookie QBs get thrown to the wolves because some hitty team with a high draft pick hopes that they'll be their one-man savior- ask Mariota how well that works out.
Or Joey Harrington. Or RG3. Drew's right. It's criminal to start these guys in a pro offense their first year out of college.
Absolutely.
Exhibit A: Aaron Rodgers.
Did him no harm to carry a clipboard behind Favre for a few years.
I could understand the rush when rookie contracts went through the roof, but now that they've tied them down again, there should be no problem with bringing a QB along slowly.
Seahawks' Wilson the sorta exception to the rule?
Too soon to tell. The problem isn't just QBs who aren't ready to jump in as starters, it's also the ones who end up only shining brightly for the first few years and then flame out. This is only Wilson's 4th season, and he is doing decidedly more poorly this year than in the past.
True that. But I'd put a couple of the losses up to Bevell getting too conservative, too early. Don't think it's unreasonable to look a offensive play calling, as well as the defense, in the Hawks not finishing the game meme.
Agreed. Too tight, until they need to pull something out the fire in the final quarter and cut him loose.
Say, you what other QB looked really shitty until the final few drives and then my some miracle would snatch a win? ;p He was fun.
Due to two byes and an injury, the Couchgoats had to bring on some new RB talent for the week. Luckily, one of them can rap.
something tells me every single one of us took a shot at DeAngelo
Yeah, went for him too, though I got Langford so not a total loss.
Edit: I'm facing DeAngelo this week rofl
Fun fact: Doug Martin's nickname is "Muscle Hamster." Do what you want with that knowledge.
Somehow, I think that's better than being known as "Hamster Muscles."
My reaction to either is "would not bang".
better than "hung like a"
OT: In other dumb sportsballer news this evening, there's this charmer:
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2015/11/05/lance-berkman…
Ah, yes, the old "slippery slope" gem. Shut up and hit, Lance!
Edit: Or pitch or whatever it is you do, I don't know and don't care. Just, please, STFU.
Perhaps the "slippery slope" he is talking about is from his personal experience with Wesson Oil™, a Slip 'n Slide™, and a passel of bimbettes.
in a park restroom…
There seem to be a lot more dudes worried about penises in the ladies' room than ladies (there are some, but not nearly as many). I guess they think we have urinals in there? And also that saying, "No penises allowed" is some kind of magical force field that keeps creepy rapists out, because a guy might be willing to commit felony rape, but he won't go in a room marked "Women"?
but he won't go in a room marked "Women"?
Really… "I'm gonna rape and murder that bitch and, hey, wait! She went into the ladies' room!? Aww! I can't go in there! That would be wrong!"
At a number of venues here that are without bathroom equity, the ladies often come into the boyz room to wash hands.
I have used many a men's room without raping anyone, or even being raped.
you're no fun…
Right, because it's not the income inequality or any of that crap. Damn those people who want to be accepting of others!
/FFS
Time to break out the wee fiddles?
I don't know about all this. I mean, it obviously depends on a variety of factors. One that stands out for me (besides athletic talent, of course) is something like maturity or "football intelligence" or whatever you want to call it. There are some QBs who have a clock in their head that expires in about 3 seconds when they know they either need to throw the ball or scramble. Then, of course, there's the talent surrounding the QB. The O-line is probably the most important talent surrounding the QB. If the QB doesn't have that 3 seconds, then he's toast, and so is any sort of running game.
That's always been true though. And that top drafted QB is inevitably going to end up behind a shitty OL, since he's going to one of the worst teams. I dunno, I don't see that anything much has changed from how it always was — the college and pro games have always been different animals (if anything, it's better now than in the old days when an Oklahoma QB could start for four years without ever throwing a pass). QBs have always been thrust into shitty situations they aren't prepared for. I guess we need to figure out if there really is a crisis, or it's just that we now all make spreadsheets every time these guys fart (and someone makes $1 from that on DraftKings).
That's the thing- those hotshot rookies go to shit teams with high draft picks who are desperate to produce ASAP before heads roll and they likely have shit O-lines, which is why their last vet probably got too beat up to play.
As to the Set Guitars To Kill vid. Not bad, not bad at all. A combo of | Maserati |, | Hum |, and | Zappa |.
Geez, a competent Browns offense? Is the world coming to an end?
Mike Tomlin needs to read this article, stat…
ETA: I mean the part about actually grooming the back-up, not so much the starting a rookie QB part.
#3worksforme
Steelers claim Jacoby Jones, waive Dri Archer
Remind me why the first part of this news is hilarious, linky:
I thought that name was familiar…hee hee hee…
Ouch!
http://deadspin.com/the-detroit-lions-are-an-even…
OUCH, indeed. Sorry Vodka…
Oh, I'm aware. I am only cheering for more firings and some trades for picks.
We were actually joking at the game last Sunday that the Lions were just letting the oppo get ahead by 24 points this year.
Then it sort of didn't get funny any more. Sorry, Vodka!