213 thoughts on “Iowa Time!

    1. So they start at 7 PM, last maybe two hours, then have to deliver the results to Demo and GOPer HQ, where the numbers will be counted…what time will it be before we see the twin-triumphs of Bernie and Gary Gilmore?

      BTW, Po'o media critic Jack Shafer has already pre-digested the excuses of pundits who blew it:

      | <a href="http://:http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/the-pundits-are-about-to-be-wrong-213584” target=”_blank”>:http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/the-pundits-are-about-to-be-wrong-213584 |

      Hope Bill Kristol is studying it carefully.

      1. I'd be expecting results maybe around 9 then coming in through the night? Possibly starting a bit earlier if some get done early. I'm sure we'll get some reports that aren't votes a lot earlier than that for what people are seeing as far as turnout.

          1. I agree with the idea that too many are trying to hedge their bets. Like seriously, it's okay to admit you were wrong in a primary in Iowa.

  1. Breaking News from CNN! "Donald Trump will watch the results at the Sheraton in West Des Moines."

    What? Was the La Quinta booked?

  2. BTW, I am grateful as fuck that Rachel Maddow is paired with Brian Wilson instead of the irritating Chris Matthews FFS…

    ETA: oh Christ, he's baaaaack…

        1. Brain. True story: Ex-BIL once misspelled his son Brian's name 'Brain' on some kinda official form, forget what it was now. Anyway , that ex BIL is dead now anyway.

    1. State motto: "We Corn It"
      State slogan: "If corn won't grow where you live, give us a chance!"
      State Song: "Beautiful Corn"
      State bird: Popcorn Popper
      State capital: Des Corn
      State governor: Cornelio C. Cornell
      State fish: Flipper Kernel
      State flower: Corn Flower
      State fossil: Petrified Corn
      State insect: Locust (Also known as "Corn Flies")
      State language: English, Children of the Corn
      State amphibian: Corn Frog
      State tree: Corn Stalk
      State color: Corn Yellow
      State Plague: Corn Fungus
      State Pastime: Corn on the Cob'n
      State Hero: Ethanol, Slipknot
      State skin disorder: Bunyan See: Corn

      1. As someone who (briefly) attended Cornell College¹ in Mount Vernon IA, I salute this exhaustive compilation of corn-themed things.
        _______________________
        ¹"No, not that Cornell." It's on the official seal.

  3. Not sure about other streamers/sites, but the CBS News and ABC News Roku channels are livestreaming for free (no login).

  4. Supposed to be nasty weather in Iowa later tonight, blizzard conditions, etc. It might hit western Iowa around the time the caucuses end. Hopefully, it won't deter anyone from going and letting their voices be heard.

          1. If I may paraphrase Joseph N. Welch during the McCarthy hearings: "Have you no sense of decency, Karen? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

      1. I know, but I'm not sure I can live through even more months of his insufferable arrogance. I guess I can take one for the team, though…

  5. Mr. Rose, whose wife, Mary Jones, was a precinct captain for President Obama in 2008, ruefully recalled losing out on some supporters because a rival campaign had brought homemade sandwiches.

    hahaha the NYT is coming in with the important facts.

    edit: it doesn't end.

    Ms. Vernon said she was already wary of her rivals’ tactics. “I heard some Hillary people talking about if they should bring pizza,” Ms. Vernon said, with a hint of suspicion in her voice. She paused. “I wouldn’t mind getting a piece of pizza, but I’m probably going to go for Bernie.”

    1. The top story on MSNBC's Chris Hayes website at the moment is one I saw the other night, and becomes pretty hilarious and touching when their dude on the ground in Iowa ventures into the home of a nice old couple, looks at all the mailers they've received, and sits down with them in their living room to have dinner on teevee tables while they watch all the freaking commercials.

      http://www.msnbc.com/all

      In case it gets bumped down, the story is called "Iowa Ad Wars" and the fun stuff begins about one minute in.

    2. "Dear Mr. or Ms. Iowa voter, what is the most important characteristic you look for in a candidate?"

      "Whether or not their supporters bring pizza on caucus night."

    1. Just remember, two folks who won the Iowa caucus on the Republican side recently were "President" Rick Santorum and "President" Mike Huckabee, so, yeah. Republican Iowegians are not very good at selecting presidents, so there's that.

        1. "Have you seen that delegate? I mean, I haven't, but my people tell me he or she is YOOGE and BEEYOOTIFUL! You've never seen such a classy delegate. And my people tell me he or she loves me and thinks I'm awesome, which is great."

  6. Rachel: reports of caucus locations running out of voter reg forms.

    Anyone know how Iowa works? Does that mean the newcomers are SOL and can't caucus then?

    1. Disenfranchised! Did they check for Black Panthers?

      Actually IA folks are terminally nice and would run off more copies or just hand-draw the forms if need be.

    2. Ioway allows for same-day voter registration, at least on caucus night (not sure about the general, but probably then, too). So, if a person is a first-time voter (or has recently moved and just needs to update their address info) they can register right at the caucus. What's frustrating and ridiculous is that some places either underestimate or just have no estimate at all as to how many forms will be needed at any particular caucus place. Most likely, the people who need voter reg forms will get them eventually. They may have to delay the actual caucus process for a little while, but they should (I hope) still be able to get registered and caucus.

  7. Clinton leading early entrance poll among… white people, which is 94% of the electorate according to CNN. If that's accurate this will be a good night for her.

  8. 6% reporting for Democrats.

    Clinton 52.7
    Sanders 46.2
    O'Malley 1.1

    2% for Republicans

    Trump 34.7
    Cruz 30.7
    Rubio 13.6
    Carson 9.6
    Paul 3.5
    Huckabee 1.8
    Christie 1.5
    Fiorina 1.4
    Kasich 1.4
    Bush 1.2
    Santorum 0.6
    Gilmore 0.0

  9. Actual votes, not polls:

    Replicans (4%):
     the Cruzer: 31.1% (1,290 votes)
     tehRump: 30.0% (1,245 votes)
     Waterboy Rubio: 15.9% (658 votes)

    D'Ratz (13%):
     Hillz: 52.4% (97 votes)
     the Bern: 46.5% (86 votes)

     Radar O'Reilly (47,286 corn cobs)

    1. From Jim Newell's twitter, which Blue posted earlier: "It all comes down to the number of supporters each candidate has"

      Reminds me of watching one of the last NFL games John Madden ever did color commentary for: "What it comes down to is can [Team A] score and stop [Team B] from scoring?" And he got paid good money for saying that.

      1. Coach X: "What we've got to do is put some points on the scoreboard."
        Candidate Y: "The only poll that counts (unless it shows I'm ahead) is the one on Election Day."

  10. 21% reporting- D

    Clinton 53.0% (107)
    Sanders 46.5% (94)
    O'Malley 0.5% (1, yes it was 2 last update. He lost a vote lmao)

  11. R- 7% reporting

    Cruz 30.2%
    Trump 28.6%
    Rubio 17.8%
    Carson 9.8%
    Paul 4.3%
    Bush 2.2%
    Huckabee 2.1%
    Fiorina 1.8%
    Kasich 1.4%
    Christie: 1.1%
    Santorum 0.7%
    Other 0.1%
    Gilmore 0.0%

  12. I like how there's always 1 county Carson leads in and it keeps changing. It's like it's trying to find the right county to sleep in.

  13. Ariel Edwards-Levy Verified account
    ‏@aedwardslevy

    8:30 pm "too early to call"
    9 pm "too close to call"
    11 pm "too busy drinking to call"
    12:30 am "too late to call"

      1. Urban: 50.2 Sanders, 49.7 Clinton (note: Ones with colleges tend to be going Sanders, other like Des Moines going Clinton)

        Rural: 52.1 Clinton, 47.1 Sanders

  14. R-19% reporting

    Cruz 30.0%
    Trump 27.2%
    Rubio 18.7%
    Carson 10.0%
    Paul 4.4%
    Bush 2.3%
    Huckabee 1.8%
    Fiorina 1.8%
    Kasich 1.4%
    Christie 1.2%
    Santorum 1.2%

      1. Matthews is one of those people where if I even just hear his voice I have to change the channel. Blitzer, I tend to gape at him, it amazes me how someone so vacuous has stayed in his job for so long.

        1. Speaking of closer to the ocean, on Friday I saw The Finest Hours. I recommend it to all Wonkvillians. Very edge-of-the-seat although no sea monsters.

          1. Thanks, I must see this, despite the grievous lack of aquatic monstrosities . I didn't even know it was in production till the ads came out. Those sneaky Disney folks!

            So… a bit windy out in those parts?

          2. Very. And cold. A tree fell over in a park near here. That rarely happens. And pretty heavy rain Sunday morning. It's weird, having weather.

          3. I saw a scary tree fall on the news, and a 115 mph gust somewhere. That's all too much. People move out there to get away from the weather, I understand, and maybe a few strongly worded letters to the Chamber of Commerce are in order.

          4. Wow, now that's a scary tree fall! I hope no one was hurt.

            I think my previous comment came off much more smartass-y than It should have, so I do apologize.

            I'm surrounded by gigantic old silver maples. If they ever go their roots will take the entire neighborhood with them. The good news – no grass to mow!

          5. Not sure which comment you mean. I didn't detect any smart assery.

            It was indeed a pretty dramatic tree fail. Around California it's more common for |oaks to drop their limbs in the summer,| and oaks are ubiquitous. So parks and public spaces are careful to place tables and benches away from oak canopies.

          6. Oh, good. The whole "strongly worded letter" to the C-o-C bit was making me uneasy…

            Wow, "Sudden Limb Drop" is a real thing! Didn't know that. A tree (don't remember what kind) did that to me years ago. Late summer, dead calm, tree just ups and sheds a huge limb *right across the top of the power pole* outside my window. Woke up to a huge electrical ball of fire outside the window (try integrating that into your dream "hmmm…the sun is making this weird buzzing sound…"). Fortunately, the power cut before everything caught fire.
            Must have been the temperature drop that night. Now I know, cool.

    1. It's State Delegate Equivalents, the guess that the Iowa Democratic Party has of how many delegates each will have at the state convention level in March.

    2. This is the best info I could turn up: http://iowacaucusproject.org/2015/07/how-many-peo

      So you have a fraction of a fraction of the voters, and the voters then elect delegates, basically. So the most you can expect from the Ds is to hit the 2008 caucus high turnout of 38% of eligible D voters. (And since Iowa lets you switch sides that day, people who were Ds could switch to R tonight just for shits and giggles and free Trump swag, then never vote R again.)

  15. From the NYT's updates:

    Ben Carson Is Going Home, But Just for a Change of Clothes, His Campaign Says

    As the caucus results poured in, Ben Carson’s campaign wanted to set the record straight: The retired neurosurgeon is not dropping out of the race.

    While most candidates are heading to New Hampshire from Iowa on Tuesday, Mr. Carson planned to go home to Florida.

    Prognosticators wondered if an exit strategy was in place, but Mr. Carson’s team said it was actually a mission to get clean clothes

    If you say so…

    1. Going back to Florida for a change of clothes? Nonsense. He's obviously got to go plug in his brain at the home charging station, or perform some bizarre rite at the secret home altar to keep his human form, or finalize his report to the Overlords, or finish loading the fuel rods in his personal nuclear submarine.

      No one goes back to Florida for clothes

  16. From the NYT's updates, finally an answer to the question I've had for an hour:

    The Democratic race is very close, but Clinton has had a slight edge the entire night. And the outstanding counties aren't necessarily any better for Sanders or Clinton.

    Still going to be a long night…

  17. Anyone else listening to CBS? Carson is argle bargling. Italy/raising retirement age/national debt/the bible/mavericks, huh?

  18. MSNBC: HRC is declaring victory.

    Um, it seems a bit early for that even if the precincts that are out are in Clinton country…

  19. Oh Christ, MSNBC says we could be going "into the wee hours" for the Democratic results. Fuck it–time to walk the dogs. BBL…

    1. Ask for evidence. Laugh when that person says "everyone knows she did it!" and remind him or her that "everyone" thought Iraq had WMD's back in 2003…

      1. I was linked an anonymously-posted video of someone asking an election official in a Polk County caucus whether there should be a recount or not. That was pretty weak.

        1. The next few months are going to be insufferable. I also saw a Bernie fan on twitter claiming that his supporters are soooo well-mannered when he speaks (after they had been screaming, "LIAR" at Hillary when she spoke). Love Bernie, but hate about 75% of his voters at this point.

          1. I feel the same. Bernie's awesome, I like Hillary a bit more but I'd have no problems voting for Bernie in a general election. It's just that he has so many supporters that are awful.

          2. It's like having a crush on someone and finding out they only hang out with lacrosse douches. But, yes, same. And it's like Clinton 2008 redux — if Bernie doesn't quash the BS soon, it's going to sink him.

  20. Tbh though it's basically a tie, and no matter what the differences are we can all agree to point and laugh at Donald Trump.

  21. Apparently the Polk County Democratic Party chairman is sending someone to knock on the door of the head of the precinct not showing results yet. We're at that point.

    And with that I'm going to bed. Nearly 3am and it may take hours for them to get contact with the final ten precincts. Legendary night to say the least.

  22. Latest numbers: Cruz 28% (Yay!*) Trump 24, Rubio 23. Other people got votes as well. (It appears Jeb! finished with 3%. *snort*)

    Clinton: 49.9%, Bernie 49.5%. A few people voted for M O'M also, too. Teh teevee newz is saying it's the closest Iowa caucus race evah.

    * I said "Yay!" about Cruz's win because I feel like, among the GOP front runners, he would be the easiest to defeat in November. Trump scares me as human being and as a candidate because he could get a lot of independents to vote for him. Rubio scares me as a human being and as a candidate because he's smooth and I could see a lot of people voting for him. Cruz is just creepy as all fuck.

    Also, too, O'Malley is suspending his campaign, as is Fuckadump, er, sorry, Huckabee.

  23. Complaining about media bias when the media has been paying a ton of attention to your state for the last month? Not very good timing.

  24. I'm in San Diego and the nearest selling dealer is about 110 miles away in Tustin. The nearest filling station is about 10 miles away which would be fine. New techmology vs iron-clad Toyota reliability. My 2011 Prius has 35k miles on it and shows every sign of running forever. What to do?

  25. I believe it works like a reality show and all the candidates that dropout will be sequestered at an all-inclusive island resort until the reunion show conventions (or possibly elections).

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