19 thoughts on “Turns Out This Was All About Suppressing Slave Rebellions, Maybe”
Don't know if I buy into this. Sure will make a lot of people who hate the NYT hate it even moar.
The Declaration’s beautiful preamble distracts us from the heart of the document, the 27 accusations against King George III over which its authors wrangled and debated, trying to get the wording just right. The very last one — the ultimate deal-breaker — was the most important for them, and it is for us: “He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.” In the context of the 18th century, “domestic insurrections” refers to rebellious slaves. “Merciless Indian savages” doesn’t need much explanation.
Well, heck, what is the 4th for but "Bash the FF Day."
Yeah, the D of I was Public Relations at least in part, so a few inconsistencies with actual reality [ besides the obvious one someone else quoted this morning
“If there be an object truly ridiculous in nature, it is an American patriot, signing resolutions of independency with the one hand, and with the other brandishing a whip over his affrighted slaves.” – Thomas Day, 1776 ]
So, The Fr and Ind. Wars, was when the colonies were asked to feed and house the Brit soldiers.After the end of formal hostilities, Brit, still wanted that support stuff [and taxes ], colonists complained that war was over, so 'why'?' . The quote above suggests that the colonists thought the Crown was actively fomenting unrest, or maybe Brit just not prosecuting the hostilities with the vigor they once did, because the FR part of FR and Ind Wars was over, but not the Ind part as far as the colonists were concerned.
Or not.
Was listening to KQED's Forum this morning, and they were talking about this stuff. Seems the fight to locate the nation's capital south of the Mason-Dixon line was one concession Hamilton made (otherwise the southern states were talking about seceding, already) and The South had to take his financial ideas for the new republic. Seems this here republic of ours was pretty factious from the get go.
Hamilton was an anti-slavery troublemaker. Another reason to like him.
I'm cranky enough about the 4th that I can believe this. Not looking forward to trying to calm my guys down when the war zone gets under way. Fuck illegal fireworks with a chainsaw of arrests and prosecutions (IF ONLY)…
he has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. this piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, & murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them; thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.
Written by a man who owned 200 slaves. The irony stings. When he was elected president in the disputed election of 1800, somebody described him as "carried into the Temple of Liberty on the shoulders of slaves."
I'm in, got the NASA channel playing but they've just got a placeholder screen. Nothing I like better than a good orbit insertion. Oooh, here it comes!
Don't know if I buy into this. Sure will make a lot of people who hate the NYT hate it even moar.
Well, heck, what is the 4th for but "Bash the FF Day."
Yeah, the D of I was Public Relations at least in part, so a few inconsistencies with actual reality [ besides the obvious one someone else quoted this morning
“If there be an object truly ridiculous in nature, it is an American patriot, signing resolutions of independency with the one hand, and with the other brandishing a whip over his affrighted slaves.” – Thomas Day, 1776 ]
So, The Fr and Ind. Wars, was when the colonies were asked to feed and house the Brit soldiers.After the end of formal hostilities, Brit, still wanted that support stuff [and taxes ], colonists complained that war was over, so 'why'?' . The quote above suggests that the colonists thought the Crown was actively fomenting unrest, or maybe Brit just not prosecuting the hostilities with the vigor they once did, because the FR part of FR and Ind Wars was over, but not the Ind part as far as the colonists were concerned.
Or not.
Well at least we can be certain the War of Northern Aggression was fought for states' rights, not to preserve slavery.
The Rude One on the snark of old. [ US conveniently frogot a lot of this too ] http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2016/07/francis-ho…
[ Lol ]
Was listening to KQED's Forum this morning, and they were talking about this stuff. Seems the fight to locate the nation's capital south of the Mason-Dixon line was one concession Hamilton made (otherwise the southern states were talking about seceding, already) and The South had to take his financial ideas for the new republic. Seems this here republic of ours was pretty factious from the get go.
Hamilton was an anti-slavery troublemaker. Another reason to like him.
Plus we know now how he could sing and dance.
I loved him in The Book of Mormon
Would have been interesting if the south had gone its separate way from the get-go.
I'm cranky enough about the 4th that I can believe this. Not looking forward to trying to calm my guys down when the war zone gets under way. Fuck illegal fireworks with a chainsaw of arrests and prosecutions (IF ONLY)…
yeah, when I was in my young "blow shit up" phase, I should have had some more sympathy for the doggies. I regret the error
I wish this had been left in <a href="http://(https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/declara/ruffdrft.html)” target=”_blank”>(https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/declara/ruffdrft.html)
he has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. this piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce: and that this assemblage of horrors might want no fact of distinguished die, he is now exciting those very people to rise in arms among us, and to purchase that liberty of which he has deprived them, & murdering the people upon whom he also obtruded them; thus paying off former crimes committed against the liberties of one people, with crimes which he urges them to commit against the lives of another.
Written by a man who owned 200 slaves. The irony stings. When he was elected president in the disputed election of 1800, somebody described him as "carried into the Temple of Liberty on the shoulders of slaves."
What part of "domestic insurrection" don't you understand?
I still live in fear of the Molly Maids™!
Rockets' Red Glare thread is borked for me. Juno livebloog, anyone?
I'm in, got the NASA channel playing but they've just got a placeholder screen. Nothing I like better than a good orbit insertion. Oooh, here it comes!
And they got the sound working. Very smart about techmology, those NASAns.
yep, just set up another post